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Must Donate - That's Not What A Donation Is
« on: May 03, 2009, 01:36:45 PM »
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but telling people what they must donate is not a donation, that's making a payment.

I was planning to make a donation, by what the website says, make a donation for what you think the program is worth, then I read on the forum that you must donate 15€ (15 Euros) or more.

Anyhow, I get the feeling the developers are not native English speakers.

Do you want donations or do you want to charge a set price?

THANKS
« Last Edit: May 03, 2009, 01:38:19 PM by DasFox »

Offline Hecks

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Re: Must Donate - That's Not What A Donation Is
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2009, 02:23:52 PM »
The minimum amount was set in response to complaints that there wasn't one.  Read around the forum a bit.  Specifying minimum donations is quite common, if you've ever donated before you'd know this.  That's why Paypal has the facility to set one on its Donate links.  Of course, it's only a *minimum* and so not a 'set price' ... plenty of peeps give more.

Can't really see the point of this thread, or where you want to go with it ...

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Re: Must Donate - That's Not What A Donation Is
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2009, 02:25:53 PM »
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but telling people what they must donate is not a donation, that's making a payment.

I was planning to make a donation, by what the website says, make a donation for what you think the program is worth, then I read on the forum that you must donate 15€ (15 Euros) or more.

Anyhow, I get the feeling the developers are not native English speakers.

Do you want donations or do you want to charge a set price?

THANKS

Me dont understand you. Me like you to make 15Euros payment donation whatever every month.

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Re: Must Donate - That's Not What A Donation Is
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2009, 03:16:07 AM »
ROFL  :D

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Re: Must Donate - That's Not What A Donation Is
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2009, 04:26:21 AM »
At the risk of being argumentative I actually agree with the OP.. Requring a donation, isn't really a donation;

DONATION, contracts. The act by which the owner of a thing, voluntarily transfers the title and possession of the same, from himself to another person, without any consideration; a gift. (q.v.)
     2. A donation is never perfected until it is has been accepted, for the acceptance (q.v.) is requisite to make the donation complete. Vide Assent, and Ayl. Pand. tit. 9 Clef des Lois Rom. h.t.

You are requiring payment in exchange for product (AB'z) and and services (Support), which makes it a payment, of a minimum amount, with the implied request that someone might be prepared to pay additionally for it if they feel it presents value for money.

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Re: Must Donate - That's Not What A Donation Is
« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2009, 04:31:24 AM »
Further thought on the matter leads me to believe that perhaps the donation should be replaced by "contribution of at least x"

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Re: Must Donate - That's Not What A Donation Is
« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2009, 04:34:34 AM »
Well , noone is forcing anyone to donate , it's quite simple , you are free to use the older version at no cost OR donate for the latest release. This is not uncommon at all , plenty of other software developers do the same thing , also it's not a monthly donation , if you feel it's worth the money you can donate again at a later time or not , so i don't see what the big deal is. I quite happily donated because it is great software and worth the money to see it's development continue.
Too much good software these days gets worked on for a while and development just stops , however this looks like it will be something to continue being developed for some time.

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Re: Must Donate - That's Not What A Donation Is
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2009, 04:40:20 AM »

No-one is disputing the value, I am sure the OP understands the relationship between paying and getting, I think (and I) are saying donate is the incorrect terminology.

The problem with the free one, is that by now, so many things don't work properly in it (Most the search engines), it's very hard to use, except as an import nzb and download utility.

I am not saying there is anything wrong with the contribution requirement, nor the minimum price, I am saying the OP's point is valid.

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Re: Must Donate - That's Not What A Donation Is
« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2009, 07:55:31 AM »
The problem with the free one, is that by now, so many things don't work properly in it (Most the search engines), it's very hard to use, except as an import nzb and download utility. and par check and unrar
Above things are still the basics what AltBinz is meant for. Maybe now it is more like a "trial" version with limited posibilities.
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Re: Must Donate - That's Not What A Donation Is
« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2009, 08:02:01 AM »
Donating grants Contributor status in the forum.  Contributors have access to the Contrbutors forum, and posting rights in the Requests forum.  New versions may be downloaded from the Contributors forum.  That's the logic.

Payment suggests one-time fee, donation is open-ended.  Plenty of people donate more than the minimum, and donate more than once.  The idea is that Contributors support the future development of the proggy, and the developer.  Take note, networkn.

As this discussion really has no point (what's it supposed to achieve?):

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