Author Topic: 64 bit version  (Read 17746 times)

Offline mc00

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Re: 64 bit version
« Reply #15 on: August 20, 2008, 05:07:14 AM »
"to speed up what?

Downloading? you know it wouldnt.
Par checking? i believe it's 3d party prog quickpar dll that is used, ask quickpar developpers
Unrarring? same as quickpar, ask for a 64bit winrar.

I might be wrong, but i believe that a 64bit version of altbinz wouldn't help."

It's funny you say that. I have you try newsbin pro x64?  I did. I see big different with the decoding time with  Vista x64 and the newsbin pro. I'm still loyal to altbinz.
 to "mysteryman"
Well bad drivers support for Vista X64 depends on the hardware you have on your system or laptop. My laptops have a ATI chipset and Video, and a realtek sound and lan... ATI and Realtek have full support for x64.
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Offline mysteryman

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Re: 64 bit version
« Reply #16 on: August 20, 2008, 05:33:24 AM »
Well bad drivers support for Vista X64 depends on the hardware you have on your system or laptop. My laptops have a ATI chipset and Video, and a realtek sound and lan... ATI and Realtek have full support for x64.

[rant]yep, entirely dependant on how much respect the manufacturer has for their thousands of customers paying 200x more than anyone else on a soundcard (since most everyone pays nothing ... thats actually an understatement). It also has to do with how incompetant (technical dept) or underhanded (marketing dept) the company may be. its rumored the once-200+ dollar xfi will never support vista 64 (and barely support vista 32) until the 'revolutionary' new xfi 2 comes out... supports the same features, but magically works on vista. Creative has a habit of doing this on many "old" devices that after the artificial vista limitations are removed from the installer they work perfectly![/rant]

with the exception of creative... everything else on my system works perfectly.. even things that have been out for YEARS!! and with 64bit drivers to boot.

Offline dacaid

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Re: 64 bit version
« Reply #17 on: August 20, 2008, 09:27:21 AM »
It's funny you say that. I have you try newsbin pro x64?  I did. I see big different with the decoding time with  Vista x64 and the newsbin pro. I'm still loyal to altbinz.

I guess i'll have to try to make my opinion on that point.
I didn't mention the decoding part, because it's done on the fly, after each file downloaded.
As i got a high end computer, 100Mo files are decoded in a couple of seconds, i don't realize how long it can be for others.

Offline mysteryman

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Re: 64 bit version
« Reply #18 on: August 20, 2008, 10:24:59 AM »
I think the performance part of decoding is really about... interfering with other applications as little as possible.

My last system was a 4400+ and was CAPABLE of playing hd... but not very good at it. Even at 720p if you opened a new tab, or refreshed a page with a lot of pictures, or decoded a file...you get massive frame dropping. Every dropped frame feels like your stabbing yourself in the eye...ok, not that bad, but really freaking annoying.

Think about it this way. You say that your "high end" pc it takes "a couple of seconds" to decode, perfect... for the sake of argument I'll call that 3seconds while it decodes and 2 seconds for the player to catch up if your processor is really bad at hd. That is 5 seconds of the video dragging... thats pretty damn unbearable... now imagine that it happened every 30 seconds. You would probably get to the point you would leave the pc while it downloads. Now we're bringing back memories of dialup and slow pcs. Now even if you say that the people with slow pcs, probably have slow internet... what if it happened every minute... 5 seconds of torture every minute is still torture.

Also as I linked, there is a 64bit unrar.dll available now... and you cant just switch them out; a 32bit exe can not call a 64bit dll... they have to match. While unrarring on a fast pc, the limitation is really in your hard drive. However... it could mean the difference between extracting x.rar at 40-60MB/s while using 30% cpu and still doing the same speed but only using 10%... thats 20% more that can be used for video decoding! Granted, I'm making up numbers at this point, but in some cases (especially hd...even on fairly new pcs) every inch counts... even when you have more than enough.

PS. I have no performance complaints on my new 6400+ yet it STILL drags on 1080p during some scenes if the priorities aren't tweaked right... x264 is a freaking beast!