split from Alt.Binz PayPal donation link

[nickpopara]

Hi,my name is Nikola,and I am from Serbia. I want to donate AltBinz,but when I try it on PayPal site, I find that my country(Serbia) is not listed as Pay Pal customer. Some other way to donate? Moneybookers? or some other way? Best regards, Nikola!

[Hecks]

Hi,my name is Nikola,and I am from Serbia. I want to donate AltBinz,but when I try it on PayPal site, I find that my country(Serbia) is not listed as Pay Pal customer. Some other way to donate? Moneybookers? or some other way? Best regards, Nikola!

No Paypal in Serbia yet, unfortunately.  But since the developer Rdl is also Serbian, I'm sure he'll be able to arrange something with you.  Maybe send him a pm?

[jarthel]

is it possible to make a donation by sending the money to you email? I know you have provided a donation link BUT I am wary of such method. I've heard to many horror stories of people losing money. I am not saying you are a crook BUT I do not know who are you.

If yes, please pm me your email

[freeop]

is it possible to make a donation by sending the money to you email? I know you have provided a donation link BUT I am wary of such method. I've heard to many horror stories of people losing money. I am not saying you are a crook BUT I do not know who are you.

If yes, please pm me your email

Jarthel,

First off I don't think RDL does anything but PayPal. But will let him answer that one himself.

As for Paypal, I have been with them for almost 10 years and never had anything but excellent luck with them. I have never lost any money and if there has been any kind of problems I have always gotten a response with in hours of submitting it.

I have all my bank and credit cards accessable via PayPal and pay many many online merchants using PayPal. Yes there are horror stories with PayPal, but that is because users are not paying attention to what they are doing. If you read the few help files when you join PayPal, you should not have any problems. It is safe and they even will get your money back, up to $2000.

Just wanted to let you know about the Success Stories from PayPal...

[Ascathon]

Just wanted to let you know about the Success Stories from PayPal...

I think his problem is not PayPal. He is not 100% sure about donating. He doesn't "trust" rdl...yet. Bad word but you know what i mean.

[Hecks]

If this were something to worry about, the forum would be full of reports.  It's not.

On the other hand, if you want to make a personal donation to my paypal account in return for guaranteed +50% operating speed for your PC, please feel free (c/o the Nigerian goverrnment).

[jarthel]

It is possible to send money to an email using Paypal. so if RDL can provide his email, I can send him a donation using paypal.

I am just wary because the paypal account is connected to where the bank gets our mortgage. if something happens to it, we're screwed.

[Ascathon]

It is possible to send money to an email using Paypal. so if RDL can provide his email, I can send him a donation using paypal.

I am just wary because the paypal account is connected to where the bank gets our mortgage. if something happens to it, we're screwed.

You are to one who sends money to a person, in this case rdl/alt binz. Without any contracts/agreements it is, as far as i know, not possible to withdraw money from other accounts. Thus, if you get problems with your bank, you are the one who made a mistake.

[Rdl]

It is possible to send money to an email using Paypal. so if RDL can provide his email, I can send him a donation using paypal.

I am just wary because the paypal account is connected to where the bank gets our mortgage. if something happens to it, we're screwed.

If you have any doubts about using the link from the program or from the first post of this thread my suggestion is, as always, don't donate.

[davidq666]

It is possible to send money to an email using Paypal. so if RDL can provide his email, I can send him a donation using paypal.

I am just wary because the paypal account is connected to where the bank gets our mortgage. if something happens to it, we're screwed.

why not use a different bank account... if you don't have one open one. that would be wise anyways if you want 2 use paypal an be sure the morgage is not in danger...

[jarthel]

It is possible to send money to an email using Paypal. so if RDL can provide his email, I can send him a donation using paypal.

I am just wary because the paypal account is connected to where the bank gets our mortgage. if something happens to it, we're screwed.

If you have any doubts about using the link from the program or from the first post of this thread my suggestion is, as always, don't donate.

thanks everyone for the reply. it seems the big guy has spoken

[dancando]

Last week I clicked the donate button and via paypal I tried to donate 2e, approx 3 US dollars.  The amount was refunded.  I thought an error occurred so I tired to donate again, this time 3e or approx 5 US dollars.  This amount was refunded.  Both of these times I used a VISA card.  I thought maybe there had been a problem with VISA, so I tried to donate with paypal using my checking account.  That too was refunded with a note from an administrator saying [edited].

So altbinz has a minimum donation they will accept but it isn't posted anywhere that I could find.  Later I did see where the donation link asked that you donate what you think altbinz is worth, and it is worth more than I donated.  Yes I did want the most current version of altbinz that comes with a donation yet I thought every bit of cash helped.  If it doesn't then a better way of telling people is advised.  I am grateful to have a good program like altbinz and I wanted to donate.

[Edit: please don't post private communications here, you can pm Rdl if you have more questions that need answering.  -Hecks]

[Mystic2010]

What he meant with "The only one you support with 2e donation is Paypal" is that Paypal asks for transaction costs. With small donations like 2e, this would 'vanish' to Paypal so to speak.

If you would be donating to 'just support the developer', I can see where you would want to give just 3e for example.
However, you state that you want to download the latest version with your donation.

The thing is, the donation has been set up in a way that you get to receive all future lifetime updates, by just doing one donation. Is a donation of 3e really what you're prepared to donate for lifetime updates?

Also, there is no explicit minimum donation amount. Just think of what you're prepared to donate for a program you will use almost (if not every day) every day. This way some can choose to give more than others. But do keep it a realistic amount.

[noons]

Heres my viewpoint on the subject. No i havent contributed yet (but by the end of the week expect a donation ) but being a broke college student I do understand where/how some of these people are thinking. I hope Rdl doesnt take offense to people who donate 2e, but I do understand how it can be aggravating as a software developer. I think when it comes to donations people generally are just used to donating in small amounts thinking it all adds up. People dont even think about paypal fees they just think that they like the software so donate 2e/$4 and get updates as a plus. Also many people dont even think about the fact that there is mainly one developer who works on this program and many dont understand the work and time that is involved with developing programs. I for one will scrounge more money then $4 dollars, but by no means could I afford paying 20e/$40 dollars for a software program right now (although thats what this program is worth).

[Hecks]

There might be a better way of dealing with donations, but look at it this way: it's highly unlikely that any new system would give lifetime access to future versions, as well as support & ability to make new feature requests, for the price of a cup of coffee, which is what some people in this thread seem to have been expecting.  As it is, a lot of people have been getting access for far less than what the proggy is really worth, at the end of the day.  I think Rdl has been really rather generous in this respect, when he could easily have set a price of $30+, which is typically what you'll find elsewhere (Newsbin & Newsleecher spring to mind).

Remember also that it's only those who've tried to donate the *absolute* minimum and have spammed Rdl with incremental attempts who've been given the cold shoulder.  700+ contributors so far have understood the nature of the transaction well enough.  I don't think this thread is representative of the majority feeling - but then again, maybe it is.