Author Topic: Header Fetching currently not supported  (Read 36815 times)

Offline Sparkss

  • Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 4
Re: Header Fetching currently not supported
« Reply #30 on: August 28, 2009, 07:30:10 PM »
I also just "found" the "view nfo" option that appears to be for all of the search engine tabs. Very cool  :). I will research the NLSS option you mentioned further. Thanks again.

Offline frantic ab

  • Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 73
Re: Header Fetching currently not supported
« Reply #31 on: January 23, 2010, 10:16:06 AM »
Most used in:

Binsearch
NZBIndex
Newzleech (if it shouldn't be down)
Yabse

Offline randomseed

  • Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 12
Re: Header Fetching currently not supported
« Reply #32 on: June 08, 2010, 08:53:47 AM »
Quote from: Pantera
One of the reasons why is because you don't always know what your searching for. For example if you go thru a channel you might be like oh i remember that artists etc.. or that sounds like something I might wanna read. Another reason is because alot of open source projects example mozilla, sourceforge use newsgroups for discussions.
The 'Browse' button covers the first - which has the added advantage of taking 0.1% of the time and bandwidth it would take to do the same job by downloading all headers for all groups you may or may not be interested in.  I know because I do this every day, and it usually takes me about 5 minutes to flick through my favourite groups, whereas doing the same with headers could sometimes take hours.  Not to mention the frustrations of your local cache becoming corrupted and needing to do the whole lot again (yes, Newsleecher, I'm looking at you).

As for the second, Alt.binz isn't really set up to be a text newsgroup reader; for a start. it has no message viewer, and no means of replying/posting.  There are plenty of alternatives for that, not least Google Groups,- which again, makes better sense from a time and bandwidth pov - or Outlook Express, which comes free with every copy of Windows.

-Hecks

Until I read this answer, I also missed the headers download due to my misunderstanding of the functionality of the program. Browsing a groups headers eventually brings you to content you were not aware of before (and therefore you would have never searched for). And yes, I missed that.  Now, as I have understood the usage of the browse button, I am even more fine with this ultimately cool piece of software called alt.binz... Browsing all headers of a group already works out fast and fine, no need to implement any more in that field. ;D 

 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D Thank you so much for providing it. I love it ! and will stick on it.

Offline leechmaster

  • Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 7
Re: Header Fetching currently not supported
« Reply #33 on: January 15, 2013, 04:31:57 PM »
I can't believe this still isn't implemented! There are many times you need to browse newsgroups, especially now that posters intentionally misspell etc in order to prevent DMCA and search engines aren't enough. The browse button in the binsearch tab doesn't give me access to all relevant groups on my server either. Like someone said: what's the point of having a group list if you can't do anything at all with it?

Offline Hecks

  • Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 2011
  • naughty cop
Re: Header Fetching currently not supported
« Reply #34 on: January 15, 2013, 07:12:57 PM »
As explained many times before, group list is for XPAT server-side searching (if your USP supports it).

I suggest that you trial Newsleecher or Newsbin for a month and then come back and report once you've had the experience of trawling raw headers and storing them locally to a satisfactory level of retention.

To give you an indication, I currently store 5 groups for 800 days, and that's 20GB just for the heavily-filtered headers I choose to keep. You can easily pull a few GB a day of headers only, 95% of which is useless spam, viruses or Dutch :P Not to mention how often you can count on your db corrupting and having to start again.

This is why anyone with any sense lets the indexers do the heavy lifting with today's usenet.
« Last Edit: January 15, 2013, 07:28:47 PM by Hecks »